ବ୍ୟବହାରକାରୀ:MKar/India Community Consultation 2014

Official Community Recommendations

Current situation [steady or decline or growing]

• Same as previus, no increase in member count [20:13] <Subas> ଏବେକାର ସ୍ଥିତି ଯଥା ପୂର୍ବ । ମେମ୍ବର ସଂଖ୍ୟା ବୃଦ୍ଧି ହେଉନି । କାରଣ କଅଣ କହିବା ?
• We are not successfull in attracting new talents.
• Even if number increased no increase in articles

Where do we want to go? What do we lack? Who shall do what and how?

• Article count is not a bigdeal, we have to improve the quality
• Some one should arrange regular workshops may be from CIS
• No follow-up Workshops
• Workshop for advanced editing techniques.
• Wikipedians are in distant locations (US, Ahmedabad, Kolkata, Mumbai, Bhavnagar...)
• To learn from Gujarati community how they are able to in retain wikimedians.

• Will more tech support for indic language needs, funneling users from en wiki, dedicated apps for wiktionary, wikisource help?

• Will more generous grants, individual engagement grants directly to comunity and community members help?
  • yes individual engagement grants will help.

• Is a need for policy activism felt (mother language based medium of education, digital literacy initiatives, official language status for more languages ike Tulu)?

• Can WMF hep in content acquisition for wikisource and wiktionary?

• Will a policy change that allows grants for digitizing help grow wikisource and wiktionary?

• Is a need for thematic organization / language or region based chapter felt?

Yes, I strongly feel there is a need for thematic and local user groups to do more focused and on-ground work in regular interval. An institution like WMIN/CIS could play the role of initiating a project but the local group should take the ownership and continue for further activities. --ସୁଭାସିସ ପାଣିଗାହି ^କଥା ୧୧:୨୬, ୨ ଅକ୍ଟୋବର ୨୦୧୪ (UTC)

ବିସ୍ତୃତ କଥାବାର୍ତ୍ତା ବିବରଣୀ

<poem> [20:32] <Subha> IIMC re gata barsa 2012thu bhala phala milithila, ekathare apana ekamata ta? [20:32] <Subas> ଆହୁରି ଅଧିକ ସ୍କୁଲ ଓ କଲେଜକୁ ଯିବାକୁ ପଡିବ । ଖାଲି ଗୋଟିଏ କିସ ଓ iimc re ଚଳିବ ନାହିଁ । ବହୁତ ପରିଶ୍ରମ ଦରକାର । [20:33] <Subha> Han, school aprkha college bhala haba boli bhabuchi [20:33] <Guguly> school sarila pare college re odia ku kehi khatir karantini [20:34] <Guguly> school re hele mark aau certificate paiba darare rachana bhalia kichi lekhibe [20:34] <Subha> Tebe Katha hela Bangalore re apanamane milita bhabe kana kahibe. Workshop ame jemiti karuche semiti heba thik achi ki kichi badala darakara? [20:36] <Subha> @Guguly: tame nije bhaba, ame ebe bi bhul karuche, IIMC ra pile bi bhul bhal lekhuchanti. Ajira Odia medium pila Wikipedia re lekhiparibe? Maximum school re net nahi [20:36] <Subas> ଅଧିକ ମିଡିଆ କଲେଜ ଗଲେ ଭଲ ହେବ, କାରଣ ସେମାନଙ୍କର ବିବିଧ ଜ୍ଞାନ ଆବଶ୍ୟକ । [20:37] <Subha> Sirnka sange mu ekamata [20:37] <Guguly> kichi international school re odia bibhaga achi [20:37] <Guguly> kichi international school re odia bibhaga achi [20:37] <Guguly> semananku prastaba dele bhala huanta [20:38] <Subha> Tanka professornka chapa rahile pile lekhibe. Hele semane long term re lekhibe ki seia tanka self-motivation upare nirbhara karuchi. [20:39] <Guguly> Sailesh, Srikant bhalia pila semiti school ru bahariparibe... [20:39] <Subha> Thik achi daba, hele English medium shool upare more 1% bi bharasa nahi. Sethi school hata bhitare Odia kahile danda mile au sabu pilanku 90+ mark mile! [20:39] <Guguly> english medium school katha kahuni [20:40] <Guguly> sai aau kiit bhalia di ta bada bada school [20:40] <Guguly> ei dita ku target kariki dekha [20:41] <Subha> Tebe ebe mu odisha re thibaru Satapathy babunku dhari Brahmapur University re gote karmasala kariba Katha bhabuchi [20:41] <Guguly> 100 pila ru 4 jana b asigale bada katha [20:41] <Guguly> brahmapur re ejain heini haba katha gote [20:41] <MKar> ଠିକ କଥା । [20:41] <Subas> ଅନେକ ଜାଗା ବୁଲିଲେ ଅଳ୍ପ ପିଲା ବାହାରିବେ, ହେଲେ ବି ଭଲ । ଅନ୍ୟ ଭାଷାରେ ବି ସେମିତି ହେଉଥିବା । ଆମେ ତାଙ୍କୁ ପଚାରିବା । [20:41] <Subha> Thik achi, kiit pain age chesta karuchi [20:42] <Subha> Au Sethi Nasim bhai achanti, Kebe kebe se au kebe kebe Satpathy babu misiki kariparibe agaku [20:43] <Subha> Subas sir au Mrutyunjaya bhai: Sethi pachariba semane school/college re program [20:43] <Subha> Kemiti sustain karauchanti? [20:44] <Subha> Au ki ki on-wiki, online promotion karuchanti [20:44] <MKar> ଆଚ୍ଛା ହେଉ, ଏ ବିଷୟରେ ଆଲୋଚନା କରିବୁ । [20:44] <Subha> Pacharibe* [20:46] <Subha> Globally outreach 15% saphala. Mane 100 ru 15, au 25 ru 4. IIMC ta ei anusare 10 scale kete daba? [20:49] <Subha> Mora au gote byaktigata anurodha. Baki Bhasa re sabubele kichi na kichi chalichi. Kebe Open Knowledge Week ta kebe Open Source Day. Au sabuthire nua Wikiali tiari huantini [20:50] <Subas> ଆମର ଗତି ଯେମିତି ଅଛି, 5% ହେଲେ ଭାବିବା ଭଲ ଅଛି । ସଂଖ୍ୟା ଅପେକ୍ଷା କେତେ ନିୟମିତ ତାହା ଗୁରୁତ୍ତ୍ୱପୂର୍ଣ୍ଣ । [20:50] <Subha> Tenu jete bele mu odisha re na rahuchi setebele apanamane samaste emiti Chota bada karjyakrama kale adhika loka janante. [20:51] <Subha> Han, au Nalconagar re niamita melana habata nihati jaruri [20:52] <Subha> E pain mu Mrutyunjaya bhainka upare tike chapa pakauchi. Melanare wikipedia editing nuhe, training hau [20:52] <Subha> Jemiti ki "Samaja lekharu adhara nei wikipedia Prasanga lekha" [20:53] <Guguly> samaja ta lekha ku kholidela ki? [20:53] <Subha> Kama bhabuchanti Bakimane e babdadare? Aditya bhai, Gyana, Guguli bhai, mauna kian? [20:54] <Subha> @guguly: na PDF ru font conversion [20:55] <gyan> Training dele aau training ta interactive kale huate interested badhi pare lekhiba pain [20:55] <Subha> Jie jie interested mote kahiba, mu gote tutorial tiari karidebi :-) [20:55] <Subha> Ekamata [20:55] <gyan> advertisement heigala ebe sachala sabhya darkar [20:56] <Guguly> bhubaneswar re kichi ta bhala odia school thiba [20:56] <Guguly> katakare b [20:56] <Guguly> capital high school...ek no boys high school e sabu bada bada school [20:56] <Guguly> ethi internet nihati thiba [20:56] <Subha> Acha interactive training daba agaru trainer mananka pain gote training kariba ki? [20:57] <Subha> School pilanku Wikisource dele bhala, khali typing sethire [20:57] <Guguly> trainer mananka pain training bhala haba [20:58] <Guguly> sabu training syllabus khasadaa anusare haba [20:58] <Guguly> kahaku kichi adhika kam milibani [20:58] <Subas> ନିହାତି ଦରକାର । କାରଣ ଟ୍ରେନିଂ ଦେଲାବେଳେ ସମସ୍ତେ ଏକାକଥା କହିବା ଆବଶ୍ୟକ । [20:58] <Guguly> kichi b hau...school pila jete kama asanti...aau kehi sete kama re asibeni [20:59] <Subha> Thik achi, ama Wikiali 3 jam Bangalore ru ferile gote plan kariba [21:00] <Subha> @ Guguly: hau ethara school chalilu ame :) [21:00] <MKar> ପ୍ରକୃତରେ ପରସ୍ପରଠାରୁ ଆମର ବହୁତ ଶିଖିବାର ଅଛି, କିନ୍ତୁ ଆମେ ମିଶିପାରୁନେ । ଯେତେବେଳେ ଏକାଠି ହେଉଛେ, ଶିଖିବା ପାଇଁ ଆମ ପାଖରେ ବହୁତ କମ ସମୟ ଥାଉଛି । [21:01] <MKar> କେବଳ ଆମେ ଶିଖିବା ନିମନ୍ତେ ଏକାଠି ହେଲେ ଭଲ ହୁଅନ୍ତା । [21:01] <Subha> @MKar: ethara nalconagar re hau gote tahele [21:02] <Subha> @Aadie: bhai, ghraku asibara achi ki e bhitare?

[21:02] <Guguly> baki sabu bhasara uikiali nija nija saharare rahuchanti [21:03] <MKar> ପ୍ରିତୀ ଭାଇ ଆଦିତ୍ୟ ଭାଇ, ଗୁଗୁଲି ଭାଇ ଆଦି ଯେଉଁମାନେ ଦୂର ଜାଗାରେ ରହୁଛନ୍ତି, ସେମାନଙ୍କ ସୁବିଧା ଦେଖି ଆମେ ଏଇ ମେଳଣଟି କରିଲେ ଭଲ ହେବ । [21:04] <Subha> Han o na :) tamil, Malayalam, Gujarati re desa bahare bahuta achanti :) [21:04] <Subha> Dipabali oct. 2ya saptahare? [21:06] <Subha> Acha Oct 3ya saptahare (14-20) bhitare kie kie baharu Odisha asuchanti ki? [21:09] <Guguly> mun december 5 re jauchi [21:09] <Subha> Hau, tame asile au gote kariba :)

[21:12] <Aadie> ଆଗକୁ ଜୁନଗଡ଼ ମେଳଣକୁ ମୁଁ ଯାଉଛି, ଦେଖିବି କେମିତି କଣ ହେଉଛି [21:12] <MKar> ବର୍ତ୍ତମାନ ଶେଷ ଓ ଗୁରୁତ୍ତ୍ଵପୂର୍ଣ୍ଣ ପ୍ରଶ୍ନ ଉପରେ ଆଲୋଚନା ଆରମ୍ଭ କରିବା; ଭବିଷ୍ୟତ ଲକ୍ଷ (ଆମ ପାଖରେ କଣ ଅଭାବ ଅଛି? କିଏ କଣ କରିବେ ଓ କିପରି?) [21:12] <subha_> Aditya Dash bhai 14-20 October bhitare gote dinikia karmasala pain jojana karuchanti [21:13] <subha_> Media Loka (journalist, editor, dtp operator) mananka pain [21:13] <Guguly> dwitiya subha bhai jane darkar....jie 12 maasa odisha re rahuthiba..:) [21:16] <Aadie> ମୋ ନେଟ୍ ଅସୁବିଧା ହେଉଛି :( ମୃତ୍ୟୁଞ୍ଜୟ ଭାଇଙ୍କ ପ୍ରଶ୍ନର ଉତ୍ତର ମୁଁ ଏ IRC ଆଲୋଚନା ଦେଇ ଦେବି [21:16] <Subha> Phone re net katigala :/ ebe asigali [21:19] <Subha> 14-20 bhitare Aditya dash bhai gote karmasala karibaku jojana karuchanti [21:20] <MKar> ଏଇ କିଛି ପ୍ରଶ୍ନର ଉତ୍ତର ମଧ୍ୟ ଦରକାର ଏବେ ନହେଲେ ମଧ୍ୟ ଆଲୋଚନା ସଭାରେ ଦେଲେ ଚଳିବ: [21:21] <MKar> * Will more tech support for indic language needs, funneling users from en wiki, dedicated apps for wiktionary, wikisource help? [21:21] <MKar> * Will more generous grants, individual engagement grants directly to comunity and community members help? [21:21] <MKar> * Is a need for policy activism felt (mother language based medium of education, digital literacy initiatives, official language status for more languages ike Tulu)? [21:21] <MKar> * Can WMF hep in content acquisition for wikisource and wiktionary? [21:21] <Subha> Sambadika, DTP operator adi media lokanka pain. Gote train-the-trainer kariba ki ei samayare? [21:21] <MKar> * Will a policy change that allows grants for digitizing help grow wikisource and wiktionary? [21:21] <MKar> * Is a need for thematic organization / language or region based chapter felt?

[21:24] <Subha> Sabu gudaka pain han. Sesa ta amara wiki tungi . Tike byabasthita au niamita hele heipariba [21:25] <MKar> train-the-trainer ମାନେ ବୁଝିପାରିଲିନି :( ସେମାନେ କାହାକୁ ଟ୍ରେନିଂ ଦେବେ ? [21:25] <Subha> Policy change: government level re policy change hele subidha haba [21:26] <Subha> Mu kahuthili se time re ame gote train-the-trainer program rakhibe tame samaste, IIMC pila asiparante, au ame gote train-the-train program rakhante [21:28] <Subha> Au prasna re thiba "is there a need for policy activism..." Ra utaraee [21:29] <Subha> kahibi je "volunteer mane hueta time deipaeibe nahi esabu pain, darama pauthiba loke (WMIN, CIS) adi esabuku hataku naba katha [21:31] <Psubhashish> Barambara katijauchi :/ au kichi agenda aji post karithila ki? [21:32] <Psubhashish> @ansuman: jahau finally asilu :) acha begi begi kaha

[21:32] == mode/#wikipedia-or [+o Ansuman] by ChanServ [21:34] <@Ansuman> Aapana mane jaha aalochana kale, lekhirakhantu VP re, aame se sabu semananku janeiba [21:34] <@Ansuman> achha Odia Wikipedia re local upload restrict heijiba..

[21:44] <MKar> ଆଚ୍ଛା, ଏତିକିରେ ରହିବା? ଲଗ ଦେଖି ସମସ୍ତେ ଅଧିକ ମତ ଦେବେ । [21:45] <Psubhashish> Au kichi asamahita prasna rahila ki? [21:47] <MKar> ୩ତାରିଖ ପର୍ଯ୍ୟନ୍ତ ସମସ୍ତେ ମତ ଦେଇପାରିବେ । [21:47] <Psubhashish> @MKar: bhai, asubidha ra talika, community ra mata ra talika, ki ki jinisa bakimananka thu sikhibara achi ei IRC ru bahara kari pariba?

[21:49] <Psubhashish> Priti bhai, Gita bhalia gaidia [21:49] <Psubhashish> 1- asubidha [21:49] <Psubhashish> 2 - samadhan [21:49] <hellohappy> kolkata traffic sabu asubidha kala [21:49] <Psubhashish> 3- kama ame sikhipariba [21:49] <Psubhashish> Juhara bhai :) chaliba

[21:59] <hellohappy> future laksha kichhi ame decide karichhe ki ! [22:06] <hellohappy> odia sarakari school abasta bahut kharap [22:07] <hellohappy> sethi subidha sujogra ghor abhaba [22:08] <subha> School pilanku bahi digitize kama daba ki? Semane kariparibeki? [22:08] <hellohappy> school ku ame kama nadele bhala [22:09] <hellohappy> haan semane jadi wikipedia byabahara kari kichhi upakruta hoi paruchhanti, tahele bahut bhala [22:10] <subha> +2 au BA pilanku? [22:10] <hellohappy> wikipedia re swa-ichhare kama kariba ajira dinare school mananka pain kasta [22:10] <Guguly> bhala school bachibaku padiba [22:11] <hellohappy> University/Professional college hueta kichhi kariparanti [22:11] <hellohappy> UU re bahut kama chalichhi [22:12] <hellohappy> kali Prof U N Sahu'nkar lekharu jana paduthila [22:12] <hellohappy> semane jadi interest dekhanti, hueta kichhi fala milipare [22:12] <subha> Tebe ame orientation program kari pilanku kali pariba. Bhala pila jadi janagale agaku jiba nahele feria dina. Kama kahuchanti bhaimane? [22:13] <Guguly> UU re kan kichi kama hauni para ...odia bibhag pura manda [22:13] <MKar> ଏବେ ପିଲାମାନଙ୍କ ଉପରେ ଏତେ ଚାପ/ ବୋଝ ରହୁଛି ଯେ, ଅଧିକାଂଶ ପିଲା ଏଥିପାଇଁ ସମୟ ଦେବା ଟିକେ କଷ୍ଟ । ତେବେ ଜଣେହେଲେ ବି ମିଳିବେନି, ଏହା କହିହେବନି । [22:13] <hellohappy> na semane C-DAC sahita misi kichhi kama karuchhanti UUre [22:14] <Guguly> amaku ama sankhya badheibara achi [22:14] <MKar> ଚେଷ୍ଟା କଲେ ହୁଏତ ମିଳିପାରନ୍ତି । [22:14] <subha> Utkal re computer lab achi, internet nahi :( [22:14] <Guguly> gote b duita hele b chaliba [22:15] <hellohappy> haan gotie bhala pila milile, se 100 prasanga lekhideba [22:15] <Aadie> college re try kale sure shuphala miliba... 100 ru 5 ta miliba [22:16] <subha> Tebe Rourkela (shiti bhai thibaru) au Brahmapur (Satpathy babu nije professor au Nasim bhai sethi katha bhabuchi. Kana bhabucha bhaimane? [22:16] <Guguly> Yo... [22:17] <Aadie> eka thare kichhi hebani , samaya lagiba.. [22:17] <hellohappy> eithi kichhi agrahi pila mili paranti ଉତ୍କଳ ସଂସ୍କୃତି ବିଶ୍ଵବିଦ୍ୟାଳୟ aau ଉତ୍କଳ ସଙ୍ଗୀତ ମହାବିଦ୍ୟାଳୟ [22:18] <subha> IIMC re jemiti karuchu sei bhali kariba sethi? Local group te tiari na kale kichi agaku badhibani [22:18] <hellohappy> ethi bi ଜାତୀୟ ଆଇନ ବିଶ୍ଵବିଦ୍ୟାଳୟ (ଓଡ଼ିଶା)

[22:18] <hellohappy> eithi sabu subidha thiba [22:19] <hellohappy> pilamane apekshakruta kam chapa re thibe [22:20] <subha> Bhai ta bhul re chadideli:) [22:20] <coldbreeze16> ete deri jae samaste achanti [22:23] <subha> @coldbreeze16: bhai, tame Brahmapur re kete time deiparibe jadi kichi workshop adi karibaku pade? [22:24] <coldbreeze16> ebe ta khali achi [22:24] <coldbreeze16> 2-3 days, practical dina chadi ki [22:24] <subha> Masare? [22:25] <coldbreeze16> prati masa lagi? [22:25] <coldbreeze16> hmm sure [22:26] <subha> Tahele ame Brahmapur university pain gote Wikipedia program plan kariba? [22:27] <coldbreeze16> sure [22:27] <coldbreeze16> but university re mora semti kehi chinha nahanti [22:27] <Aadie> Bhala katha, hele aame 6 masa re eka Bada karmashala kariba, aau se samayare aama bhitaru 4 jana nihati rahibe [22:27] <subha> Mora achanti :) [22:28] <coldbreeze16> hau nischita bhabe [22:28] <subha> @Aadie: bhai, pura ekamata [22:29] <coldbreeze16> hau ta hele [22:29] <Aadie> gote Patrika type ra kichhi print heu jaldi ... Odia Wiki ra bibarani sahita Odia Bhasha Andolana ra kichi itihasa sahita [22:29] <coldbreeze16> au NIST re kehi achanti ki? [22:30] <Guguly> NIST re mo sanga achi [22:30] <Guguly> Soumya Ranjan bhai [22:30] <Aadie> jemiti Bhasha prati jane aagabhara heba [22:30] <Guguly> Wiki group re b achani [22:30] <Guguly> adhyapaka sethi [22:31] <coldbreeze16> han bhai...engg student hele kama tk better hue :D [22:31] <coldbreeze16> ekamata@Aadie [22:31] <subha> NIST ru janini bhai. Khojibaku padiba . Aditya bhai, badhia idea [22:31] <Guguly> se tike agrahi achi...hele taku eka eka bhalaguni...apana sange hele se b kichi kariparantaa [22:32] <coldbreeze16> hau misiba ta hele [22:33] <coldbreeze16> kebe kariba kahucha? [22:34] <Guguly> mu apananku ttara number dauchi [22:34] <Guguly> taku b janeidebi [22:34] <Guguly> rabibaria kebe dekha heiki katha heijaantu [22:35] <coldbreeze16> hau [22:35] <coldbreeze16> sure [22:35] <Guguly> 9437965349 [22:36] <coldbreeze16> soumya ranjan ta [22:36] <coldbreeze16> kana karuchanti [22:36] <coldbreeze16> nist re? [22:38] <Guguly> adhyapaka [22:38] <Guguly> electrical engg [22:38] <Guguly> han soumya ranjan [22:39] <coldbreeze16> hau bhai [22:47] <hellohappy> haan, bhai tike prasna gudaka tike bhala ki lekhi diantu alochana sabha re