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= Discussion =
 
== Merge tasks ==
 
<!-- [[User:DoNotArchiveUntil]] 20:14, 18 November 2020 (UTC) -->
Open-ended list, please add to it, do it, and tick off as inclined. [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 10:41, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
* {{Done}} Change edit summary ads
* {{Done}} Place tool links in same vector dropdown
* {{Done}} Merge talk pages
* {{ToDo}} Merge documentation
:{{added|copy and paste}} move completed, whoever merges the actual tools will have to edit parameter names, etc. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Train2104|Train2104]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Train2104|talk]]&nbsp;• [[Special:Contributions/Train2104|contribs]]&nbsp;• [[tools:~soxred93/ec/Train2104|count]]) 22:48, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
* {{ToDo}} Merge configuration, while keeping backwards compatibility
* {{ToDo}} Notify a [[:m:sysadmin|sysadmin]] to merge gadgets and users
* {{ToDo}} move [welcome]-button to Twinkle (currently disappears when Friendly unchecked in prefs)
* …
 
== TW revert in diff view? ==
 
The three revert options normally available in diff view (AGF, rollback, vandalism) have disappeared, they still appear for me in contribution lists, but don't appear to be working properly. Is anyone else experiencing this, or have an explanation/suggestion; before I report it as a bug? [[User:Pol430|<font color="#00008B">'''Pol430'''</font>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 17:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
:They still show up for me. I notice sometimes they seem to be gone but a refresh puts them back. –[[User:CWenger|CWenger]] ([[User talk:CWenger|talk]]) 19:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:I have the same problem - bypassing my cache doesn't fix it.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 02:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:I'm seeing it all, and it also never disappeared for me. You may wish to look at [[User:SchuminWeb/vector.js|my vector file]] and check yours against mine. [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb]] ([[User talk:SchuminWeb|Talk]]) 15:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:* Hmmm, a refresh seems to fix the problem sometimes but not always, bypassing the cache seems to make no difference either. I have enabled Twinkle and Friendly via gadgets and I use monobook rather than vector. [[User:Pol430|<font color="#00008B">'''Pol430'''</font>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 17:53, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 
::There seems to be a conflict between the revisionjumper gadget and Twinkle, at least in my case when installing Twinkle in monobook.js. Disabling revisionjumper fixed the problem.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Spot on! that has fixed the problem :) [[User:Pol430|<font color="#00008B">'''Pol430'''</font>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 22:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 
::::I just came over here to see about this. That works for me also. Now to figure out why saving adds a blank line to my edits (not Tw related I'm pretty sure) [[User:Dougweller|Dougweller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|talk]]) 15:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::When you say a blank line, do you mean an extra line of whitespace to the page? If so, I don't believe I'm experiencing that problem, could be another gadget conflict though (maybe) [[User:Pol430|<font color="#00008B">'''Pol430'''</font>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 19:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 
== Got no "tag" tab ==
 
Help, I'm lost! I've been using Twinkle for years, and it's great as far as it goes. But lately I've seen other people adding things like cleanup tags to articles with Twinkle. I don't see a tab for that! I'm using Chrome (currently; sometimes I also use Firefox) on Ubuntu 64-bit, with the old Monobook skin. On an article page I see the following tabs:
*article
*discussion
*edit this page
*history
*auto ed (yes, I added that script too, after Twinkle in my Monobook.js)
*move
*unwatch
*csd
*last
*rpp
*prod
*xfd
*unlink
 
I do ''not'' see a "tag" tab! I tried replacing my old Twinkle configuration with the currently posted one...and all the Twinkle tabs went away! It turned out I needed to add the following line:
 
<pre>if( typeof( FriendlyConfig ) == 'undefined' ) FriendlyConfig = {}; // DO NOT REMOVE THIS LINE - ALL TWINKLE SETTINGS AFTER THIS</pre>
 
That made the regular tabs come back, but I still don't have "tag". Where is it?! -- [[User:Ken g6|Ken_g6]] ([[User talk:Ken g6|factors]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Ken_g6|composites]]) 23:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:The merge of Twinkle and [[WP:Friendly|Friendly]] may not be complete yet so keep Friendly enabled in your preferences. – [[User:Allen4names|Allen]]4[[User talk:Allen4names|names]] 01:48, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks for the idea. But...
::*I tried adding <code>importScript('User:Ioeth/friendlytag.js');</code>. No tag tab.
::*I tried just <code>importScript('User:AzaToth/morebits.js');importScript('User:Ioeth/friendlytag.js');</code>. That made a tag tab. [[File:Icon cool.gif]] But I didn't include Twinkle, so there were no Twinkle tabs.
::*I tried them all together: <code>importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js');importScript('User:AzaToth/morebits.js');importScript('User:Ioeth/friendlytag.js');</code>. Twinkle came back, but the tag tab disappeared again. [[File:IrritierterSmiley.gif]]
::Any more ideas? -- [[User:Ken g6|Ken_g6]] ([[User talk:Ken g6|factors]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Ken_g6|composites]]) 04:20, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On second look, it looks like this last version works in Firefox, and seems to be starting to work in Chrome. Maybe this was that Chrome intermittent display bug. Thanks! -- [[User:Ken g6|Ken_g6]] ([[User talk:Ken g6|factors]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Ken_g6|composites]]) 04:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 
== RfPP ==
 
I've repeatedly seen protection requests made via Twinkle displace the header as the top of the section, most recently just a few minutes ago [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&diff=407865780&oldid=407855067]. Can this be fixed? It seems to have only been a problem fairly recently. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 17:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
: Can't reproduce this here, I'm assuming that it might only happen on certain platforms. Will try to find out more. [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 17:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&diff=408428261&oldid=408426949 Another diff] if it helps. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 20:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&diff=409471082&oldid=409470960 and another]. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 01:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::And [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&diff=409472394&oldid=409472264 three minutes later]! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 01:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&diff=410479088&oldid=410478278 Poke]. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 01:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
: Hopefully fixed now. Give it a grace period of one or two days so that we can be reasonably confident that most browsers have loaded the updated script, but if you notice it again after that please reopen [[WP:TW/BUGS#419]].<br>Cheers, [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 22:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 
== pending changes? ==
 
For all intents and purposes pending changes appears to be here to stay. Twinkle doesn't support it as an option when protecting, any chance of getting it added? I like the way it adds the tags and everything for you when you use it (like I have to explain why Twinkle is awesome). On a related note, I can't actually find any templates for PC, anyone know if they even exist? [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 23:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
: Re template: We had a protection template at the start of the trial, but it was quickly found superfluous and deleted. The TfD was at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 July 27#Template:Pp-pending]], the larger discussion that prompted it was at one of the PC trial pages, but I don't remember which one.<br>Regarding the protection tool: Patches are welcome. :) I'll even carve another barnstar.<br>Cheers, [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 00:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::Reading that discussion I suppose it is a bit superfluous to have a template. I'd happily add the "patch" if I had the slightest idea how to do that or even knew what it meant. I just drive this thing, I don't know what goes on under the hood. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 00:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::: Yeah, that was more a general call. :) [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 00:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 
== Template:Recent death ==
 
As a courtesy, this is notice of [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 January 28#Template:Recent death]] -- [[User:Mattinbgn|Mattinbgn]] ([[User talk:Mattinbgn|talk]]) 03:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 
== Red links? ==
 
I'm sure I'm doing something obviously wrong, but when I try to tag articles for deletion using twinkle (such as [[UK_Airsoft_Wiki|this one]] or [[Second_Revolution_flag|this one]]) the link to the articles deletion page always comes up red, but clicking it still brings you there. Does anyone know what I did wrong, and how I could fix this? Thanks so much!--[[User: Yaksar|Yaksar]] [[User talk: Yaksar|(let's chat)]] 00:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:I don't believe you did anything wrong, because I've seen it happen to me before as well. Someone has explained in the past what causes that to happen, but I don't recall offhand what that explanation was. I just ignore it, since clicking it does what it's supposed to do, even if the link is the wrong color. [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb]] ([[User talk:SchuminWeb|Talk]]) 02:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 
::You can try purging the page. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=purge Purge] this page or copy the link and replace the title value. – [[User:Allen4names|Allen]]4[[User talk:Allen4names|names]] 01:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
== Twinkle CSD improvements, including {{t|db-multiple}} support ==
 
Rejoice, Twinkle fans! I have written an alternative version of Twinkle's speedy deletion functionality, giving it a minor boost. The modified version of the script, [[User:This, that and the other/twinklespeedy.js]], supports the following new features:
* Support for the {{t|db-multiple}} template, allowing pages to be tagged with more than one criterion using Twinkle. This is a long-standing and popular feature request (now archived). (Note that admins don't get this functionality at the moment - I'm not an admin, so I can't test any modifications I make to the admin code.)
* Support for rationales for the [[WP:G7|G7]] (author request) speedy criterion (often useful if a user requests deletion at an XfD discussion - you can now provide a link to the XfD when tagging the page for G7).
* Also includes support for {{t|db-reason}}. (This apparently once did exist in Twinkle, but was seemingly removed. So maybe consensus is against including this in the main version of Twinkle. If you use my script, then '''use this feature with great care.''')
* Other, quite minor improvements.
To find all my changes, do a text search for <code>**TTO</code> in the script. There is also [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/twinklespeedy.js&diff=412486499&oldid=395559813 a cross-page diff] which shows the changes I've made.
 
If you want to try out the script, remove your normal method of invocation for Twinkle (i.e. turn off the gadget or remove the script), and import [[User:This, that and the other/twinkle.js]]. (If you don't trust me, then you can make your own copy of the speedy script in your userspace, and import that.) Also, if it is desired to incorporate some or all of my changes into [[User:AzaToth/twinklespeedy.js|the master copy of twinklespeedy.js]], I am happy to assist an admin. — <span style="border:dashed #666;border-width:1px 0 0 1px">[[User:This, that and the other|This, that]]</span>, and <span style="border:dashed #666;border-width:0 1px 1px 0">[[User talk:This, that and the other|the other<small> (talk)</small>]]</span> 10:55, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:Oh, forgot to mention, if you have any questions, comments or suggestions, please ask me. — <span style="border:dashed #666;border-width:1px 0 0 1px">[[User:This, that and the other|This, that]]</span>, and <span style="border:dashed #666;border-width:0 1px 1px 0">[[User talk:This, that and the other|the other<small> (talk)</small>]]</span> 21:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::I've copied your modified script to Twinkle, thanks again! If any issues arise, please post on this page. Cheers, [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 14:28, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
== Shoving together warning templates ==
 
Is there a way to group similar warning templates together? If a contributor uploads 5 images and doesn't get the license in the right spot and doesn't provide a source, they could get 10 long warning templates within a few minutes. Is there a way to check whether a logged in user has been to the talk page (like with the yellow "You have new messages" bar) and group all the new messages together? I've just seen some talk pages that could only be described as abominably bitey and it's Twinkle that's doing that biting and I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to do anything about it. --[[User:Gimme danger|Danger]] ([[User talk:Gimme danger|talk]]) 02:57, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:I think there's another consideration here, and it's before we even get to automated processes. Many processes, a lot of them related to files, not only ''require'' that we notify the participants, but also specify ''exactly'' what template we are to use and how to use it. Twinkle can be configured to do just about anything you want it to do, but we're only following the guidelines that the system operates under, and Twinkle is following all the steps. I personally think that the notifications are a colossal pain to do manually, and if I'm required to leave them, I'm glad that Twinkle will do that step for me.
 
:So basically, what I'm recommending is this: Change the rules that we have to operate under first, and then Twinkle will follow suit. [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb]] ([[User talk:SchuminWeb|Talk]]) 18:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::I mean, you have to notify and I see no problem with that, but there's no requirement for a separate wall of text for each file, is there? To be clearer about my initial request, when several templates are added in quick succession, is it possible to amend them to say, "File X, File Y and File Z do not have source tags, please add them." rather than having three separate sections, each with the accompanying and now redundant text? --[[User:Gimme danger|Danger]] ([[User talk:Gimme danger|talk]]) 20:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::What you're suggesting makes sense, however, from a technical standpoint, I'm not sure how you would accomplish that. One concern I would bring is that I wouldn't want Twinkle, a semi-automated script, to edit existing sections of text. Too much of a chance that it would mess something up. As a new block of text, the only thing I could think of would be to allow users to make a queue of file tagging requests and then fire them all at once, but I have no idea how one would go about putting that into code. Sounds ''really'' complicated. [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb]] ([[User talk:SchuminWeb|Talk]]) 00:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::::I often use templates (added via Twinkle or manually) to create a standard message, then edit the message to add more details. Thus, if I needed to send the same message about 5 files, I would create the message for the first file using a template, save it, then edit the page to add the names of the other files to that message. --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 00:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::That's the good way to do it. My concern is also that a lot of the worst of this tagging is done via bot and bots, being heartless beasts, would not stop to combine the messages. I figured that this would be the place to go to figure out a way to do this automatically so that both bots and taggers can avoid putting up walls. --[[User:Gimme danger|Danger]] ([[User talk:Gimme danger|talk]]) 01:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
::::All it would have to do is insert the additional tagged files' links after the original link in the first sentence given a certain set of conditions (the original template was placed within the last hour, for example); it doesn't have to do anything crazy with the text. But then, I'm not a programmer. --[[User:Gimme danger|Danger]] ([[User talk:Gimme danger|talk]]) 01:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Wouldn't a simple hack be to just enter into the article or file text field, some extra brackets. Assume it automatically adds [[ ]], so if you want to delete the ham article, the egg article, and the cheese article, just put: <nowiki> ham]], [[egg]], and [[cheese </nowiki> in the field? [[User:Ocaasi|Ocaasi]] ([[User talk:Ocaasi|talk]]) 22:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 
== Mediawiki 1.117 ==
 
Would you mind checking the source code for TWINKLE ans morebits.js against the new 1.17 mediawiki, as post upgrade it seems that enabling TWINKLE in gadgets means that it for whatever reason doesn't seem to work on File: namespace pages properly?
[[User:Sfan00 IMG|Sfan00 IMG]] ([[User talk:Sfan00 IMG|talk]]) 13:25, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 
== Courtesy FYI ==
 
A significant edit was made to the following Rcats:
* {{tl|R from plural}}
* {{tl|R to plural}}
The edit allows editors to subdue the default populating of [[:Category:Unprintworthy redirects]] and to instead populate [[:Category|Printworthy redirects]] for plurals and singulars such as those that derive from the [[Arabic]] and [[Latin]] languages. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;<font color="darkblue" face="Ariel">[[User:Paine Ellsworth|Paine&nbsp;Ellsworth]]</font>&nbsp;(&nbsp;<font color="blue" face="Ariel">[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|C<small>LIMAX</small>]]</font>&nbsp;)&nbsp; 17:49, 16 February 2011
 
== Rollback and restore version links missing on diff pages ==
 
Since MediaWiki 1.17 upgrade last night, I am having trouble with obtaining Twinkle rollback links in the diff views. Most often when I visit a "most recent" diff, I do not see any rollback or "restore this version" links at the top of the page. Sometimes I can get them to appear by going back and forth in the article history, but I would expect them to appear on every page they are applicable without such fiddling. Is anyone else having this issue? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 23:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
:Try [[Wikipedia:Bypass your cache|clearing your cache]] a couple of times, that does it for me.&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Palatino;">[[User:Xeworlebi|'''<big><big><sub>X</sub></big></big>'''eworlebi]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Xeworlebi|talk]])</sup></span> 23:53, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::Already tried that. Thanks. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 00:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::It turns out that if I'm not getting the links on a diff page, that a rollback from the "user contributions" view fails, too. I tried both the normal and the vandalism rollback links, and they just take me to the most recent diff view but do not initiate a revert at all. I am using Google Chromium 9.0.597.98; but I tried switching back to Firefox 3.6.13 and had exactly the same problems. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 04:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::I am also experiencing the same problem. I cleared my browser cache, but in vain. I tried using a different browser, but the problem persists. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:Abhishek191288|<span style="background:#8b008b;color:#FFFAFA"><b>Abhishek</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Abhishek191288|<span style="color:#006400"><i><b>Talk to me</b></i></span>]]</sup></span> 14:37, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::::Aha, it seems to be an interaction with [[User:DerHexer/revisionjumper|revisionjumper]], which I had recently enabled, and which never seemed to function anyway. I disabled it and all links are appearing regularly. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 05:10, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Seconded as having problems with revisionjumper and Twinkle under the recent change. Since revisionjumper didn't work for me over the last couple of weeks it's not great loss to disable it... [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] ([[User talk:Tabercil|talk]]) 01:24, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 
==default to minor==
I see that currently Twinkle (and Friendly) marks adding a tag by default as minor, but the guideline [[WP:MINOR]] says that this is ''always'' a major edit---as it should be,, so it will show up on watchlists, which many (?most) people set to not show minor edits. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 17:35, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
: Here's what I wrote 15 months ago about this:<blockquote>Hmm. I fixed it by removing the recommendation from the help page. This was brought up twice before at [[WT:FRIENDLY]], I don't think there was ever a consensus for that addition to [[Help:Minor edit]]: There's some sparse, ongoing discussion on its talk page since 2007, it was {{diff2|277810447|added early 2009}} by a now-banned editor, and I for one don't think that such a blanket recommendation makes sense. In particular with new page patrolling, I don't consider any added Friendly tags as major edits. It certainly is a different story with older, more established articles, I would agree with you that addition of tags should not be called minor. Then again, in my opinion Friendly shouldn't be used to tag any established articles anyway: Pointing out issues on the talk page or, if possible, just fixing them makes way more sense with older article with many revisions and authors, where the categorization isn't that helpful, issues are typically not as clear-cut or undisputed, and drive-by tagging understandably angers the main editors of those articles a bit anyway.<br>Any user can already change his Friendly configuration to not mark taggings as minor. We could also add a checkbox to display and toggle the status in the Friendly window.<br>Feel free to discuss this or ask for more opinions at [[WT:FRIENDLY]] though.<br>Cheers, [[User talk:Amalthea#toc|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 15:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)</blockquote>
: Then again, I hardly edit at the moment, and I've always kept minor edits visible on my watchlist, so this isn't really an issue for me. [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 19:31, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 
The guideline makes sense to me; tags are supposed to get people's attention, and marking their addition as minor means less attention being got via watchlists. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 21:44, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 
==Page blanking (or lack thereof)==
I have noticed that recently pages that are marked as attack pages and have a blanked as acourtesy tamplate added aren't actually blanked. [[User:ConconJondor|ConconJondor]] ([[User talk:ConconJondor|talk]]) 17:12, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
: {{tick}} {{diff2|414661370|Fixed}}, thanks! You may need to [[WP:BYPASS|bypass your browser cache]] to get the updated script. [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 19:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 
== Request to remove various temporal templates from Twinkle ==
 
I see from the {{tl|Twinkle standard installation}} notices placed on {{tl|current}}, {{tl|current person}}, {{tl|recent death}}, {{tl|current related}}, {{tl|current sport}}, {{tl|current spaceflight}} that [[WP:Twinkle]] has these templates as standard choices for Twinkle editors to select and use.
 
In general, these templates are used infrequently, and in general, only a few (as in significantly fewer than ten articles) at any time properly have such templates on the articles. In general, these templates are suggested to be used for those outstandingly unusual situations in which a massive crush of editors are active on an article, and further, are recommended not to be used to merely indicate that an article is in the news or subject to error and change, since all articles in Wikipedia are subject to being in error and or changed, a fact indicated in the [[WP:general disclaimer]] at the bottom of all Wikipedia articles.
 
That these templates are standard in Twinkle implies that a population of editors will be led to believe it is expected to use these exceptional templates for many articles, which is most definitely not the case. It is perfectly adequate to add these particular templates manually, with judgment, and rarely, without the help of Twinkle.<br>-- [[User:Yellowdesk|Yellowdesk]] ([[User talk:Yellowdesk|talk]]) 03:07, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:I admit - I have never used the "current" template or similar through Twinkle, and probably wouldn't think to use Twinkle to add that kind of a tag if I needed to. The problem with it is that it doesn't really fall within Twinkle's scope, because the tag list is otherwise all maintenance tags. So I agree that it should probably come out of Twinkle, though it seems for different reasons. [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb]] ([[User talk:SchuminWeb|Talk]]) 16:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Return to the project page "Twinkle".